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It's ok, I wasn't expecting you to be able to resist the neo-conservative spin. I like the civilized debates we had months ago, but now it's just like talking to all the other right-wing drones. Learn to think objectively and for yourself. Life is not black and white and there is certainly more than one side to every story.
"big corporation corruption" revealed 5,440,000 Google search hits. What does that prove? Nothing. Research entails a bit more than your closest internet search engine.
Thanks for covering this story. Now before the anti-union drones copy and paste talking points from Glenn Beck, let me shed some light on some important facts. The local union officers had a choice to make when they became aware of Palmer's fraud. They could cover it up or report it to the proper authorities. To their credit and despite what many people in the community thought, they immediately reported the incidents to local and federal authorities. Unfortunately, the legal process moves a little slower for white-collar crimes than it does for assault or murder. However, because of the dedication and perseverance of the local union leadership who promptly reported this, justice is now being served.
Before the personal smears fly in, let me say that I am not nor have I ever been an officer with this local union and can therefore provide some additional objective facts. I know the officers who took care of this, and I think they deserve a lot of credit for their honesty and diligence in dealing with a corrupt individual who's actions give many a bad name.
To all who will read this, please try to avoid the spin that many in the media spew about unions. It's true that there are many corrupt people and organizations. It's also true that there have been cover-ups of similar incidents in other unions and of more severity in many big corporations. Despite all that, these honest people did the right thing. That should be noted, and they deserve some credit for doing the right thing even when it could have given their organization a bad name.
Ah you funny Tea Party people conveniently forget that public employees are taxpayers also. It's pretty sad that the people who provide essential services for you and your family are viewed by as you leeches. Perfectly condescending, elitist, and anything but Christian. Bravo.
Finally! It's about time some people at the top of the pay scales share in the sacrifices along with the ones who actually provide the services we depend on.
It's funny, sort of, how you just can't grasp the concept of research. You cite research from over a year ago when trying to explain current events. Sorry, but that doesn't work by anyone's standards.
According to a February 2011 poll conducted by Pew Center Research (a conservative think tank), public opinion sided with public employees over governors who are attacking their rights. In 2010 I may have been in the minority, but it appears I am now in the majority. One other interesting fact...the poll numbers also scaled with median household income. The richest favored the governors attacks and the working middle class sided with public employees. It's just interesting to see who supports the attacks and who really supports the working class. Not surprising, but interesting to point out.
In addition, I am no longer in Missouri and I would prefer not to be referred to as ma'am since I am not a female. Thanks again for the laughs with your attempt to discover my identity...while preserving your own anonymity I might add. lol Good day, sir.
Wow, you must be a detective! lol, sorry but guess again. I like how your mind went straight to the person mentioned in the news article, despite the thousands and thousands of union-supporters in the state.
I thought you would understand my "Good day, sir" as my end to this one-sided debate. Clearly, I was wrong. I was also incorrect in my assumption that given enough time you would actually read what was posted previously, do your own research (not Fox News), and stick to the topic at hand.
Since you insist on derailing the debate off-topic, I'll give factual answers to the questions you asked. Although, I must caution, we do not live in a black and white world as you have obviously been led to believe, so these answers have some explanation.
1) Yes, a person would have more take-home money in their paychecks without paying union dues, however without their voluntary choice to pay the dues they would not have any type of protection or ability to defend their rights at work. So, because union membership in this state has been on the rise along with nationwide averages, the logical conclusion is that people place job security and rights over an extra $20-$30 each month. For that little money, it's really a no-brainer.
2) No, nobody held a gun to these people's heads and forced them to work where they do. Some are stuck because of a lack of other opportunities, but the vast majority enjoy the work they do and the services they provide to their communities. It's not correct to assume that just because someone wants to make improvements at their job that they do not enjoy it currently. Everything can be improved, but not everyone has a backbone to put the work into making changes.
3) Yes/No. Yes, Wisconsin voters obviously elected Scott Walker to the position of Governor. No, they did not vote for his hidden-agenda platform to wage war on the working class in his state. I know you won't believe that claim, so I cam prepared with facts which you won't be able to dispute. Nationwide, public opinion polls overwhelmingly side with the workers versus Gov. Walker in light of his attacks, and the recall efforts in Wisconsin are already way over the numbers necessary to remove several of his neo-conservative Senators. In a few months after they're out of office, the citizens there will recall Scott himself.
I'm sorry the world isn't as black and white as you once thought and questions need a bit more than a simple yes or no in order to be completely factual.
Yes indeed...educated, successful, and making a real difference in working people's lives, what horror and shame to be me, lol.
Actually it was a Fox anchor that did, in fact, admit the truth that I described above. I'm sorry you cannot admit the same. I'm also sorry that you are so comfortable living a small-minded life in a small rural town. Have fun with that.
I hate to break it to you, but Fox News admitted back in March when I was in Madison that all this has nothing to do with budgets, lol. I'm sorry, but I think all of your "rural common sense" (ROFL...from one of your previous posts here) has clouded your ability to distinguish facts from fiction. News flash...the fight is on, and the middle class is winning, many corporate-bought politicians are being yanked out of office as we speak and that's just the beginning of what is to come. Sorry, but public employees and their unions are standing up for their survival, and they're winning. :)
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