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Advocator 3 years, 7 months ago

Rock1853 your knowledge of canine breed characteristics is very limited. You are certainly welcome to your opinions about certain breeds. Opinions are like noses, everyone has one. Baning certain breeds is not the solution. The solution is in the pocketbook. Make them pay!!! Microchips would determine ownership beyound a shadow of doubt.

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Advocator 3 years, 7 months ago

The microchip establishs ownership. Ownership establishs responsibility and in some states (Texas for example) it can bring criminal negligence which equates to jail. I am saying that the penalties need to be increased and enforced. Dangerous canines should not be allowed to run loose. It doesn't matter if they ran out the open door, broke the chain. jumped the fence,etc., and for that manner no dogs should be allowed to run loose. You are correct that some breeds are bigger and cause more damage ie, over 60% of adult deaths caused by canines in the US are done by Pit/pit mixes and rotties/ rottie mixes, some of the breeds you mentioned have not been involved in fatal attacks. Responsible dog owners do no let their dogs get in situations where they can do harm to others or themselves. I happen to be the owner of one of the breeds you listed and have owned a least one or more of them for over forty years. Never a problem for anyone!

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rock1853 3 years, 7 months ago

Very good for you. It only takes one time though. I happen to have been one of those times. It doesn't matter the breed either. Not fatal but is irresponsible dog owners who claim their dog would never...

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TOMMYSMOM 3 years, 7 months ago

I whole heartily agree with Advocator!!! Rock1853, there truly are reponsible pet owners, I also happen to be an owner of one of the breeds that you listed. I would never say that my dog would NEVER bite anyone (he has never been aggressive towards anyone) but he is an animal and under the right circumstances, scared etc.. he very well could bite someone, however, three quarters of my property is enclosed with a 6' tall privacy fence with post embedded two feet under ground and ALL of my property even the area with the 6' tall fence is surrounded by an invisible fence, just in case he ever figured a way out of the privacy fence he will still be contained to MY yard! He is NEVER allowed outside by himself he is my responsibility, (if only most parents of children would be at least that responsible, then maybe children wouldn't be "venturing" into other peoples yards). I don't believe in "breed profiling" which is what Rock1853 is doing, not all animals of a certain breed are vicious, upbringing, training etc.. all help determine an animals temperatment. By the way the fence(s) are not because he is "mean" aggressive" or "vicious" I just happen to be a responsible pet owner looking out for the best interest of my animal, partly because OTHER people are not responsible for their animals or their children for that matter. I am sorry that Rock1853 was attacked by an animal, but don't hold ALL animals responsible for the event that happened to you. I also hope that the registration fees that are to be collected will go to either the local animal shelter or to a fund that could be used to help pay for spay and neuter for families that can't afford that procedure.

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rock1853 3 years, 7 months ago

Put those ten breeds inside a fence and see how many people dare to send their child in for 10 minutes. Put ten other breeds in like a retreivers, terriers, labs, lapso, bassett, spaniel, ect and then let's see how many aren't afraid to send in the child. See my point? I would hope so. I do like the idea of the monies going for spray/neuter.

Have you asked neighbors how they feel about your pet and fence? Does wonders for property value. Can't even think about selling with the neighbor dog looking / acting viscious. Kinda selfish.

Would you feel safe if I lined my property with loaded weapons that were pointed at the side walk or your house ect? I don't think so. A gun is predictable, a dog is not. In my rediculous opinion.

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Advocator 3 years, 7 months ago

Which ten breeds again? I would like to think that parents would not send their child into anyones fenced in yard. People don't just put up fences to keeps things in, but rather to keep things out. No, I do not see your point!

So now you are saying that if you have a pet and you are a responsible owner and put up a fence that your neighbors will not like it and their property values will go down? If I lived next to you I would have to put up a fence just to keep you out of my yard. You have made one thing very clear...there are some breeds of dogs that you do not like and there is nothing wrong with you thinking like that. We live in a free society. I think that if a breed of dogs or say ten breeds of dogs are banned that a lot of very good dogs, considered by some as family members, are going to be put to sleep. That is changing the rules in the middle of the game which is totally unfair. One more thing to consider....which breed is next. C0c*ker Spaniels inflict more bites on people that any other breed. Should we ban them too? Be at the meeting tomorrow at 10 and voice your opinion(s). I will be.

I really hope that the meeting tomorrow will focus on making people be responsible owners and they are not looking for a witch to burn. Again, microchips and heavy enforced fines will get it going in a good direction of a workable solution.

Tommysmom, nice comments. I also hope that people like you will be at the meeting tomorrow.

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Advocator 3 years, 7 months ago

BTW I'm not real sure if it legal to have loaded weapons pointed at your neighbors house or the sidewalk, but maybe it is. One thing for sure if they went off you would go to jail.

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rock1853 3 years, 7 months ago

When the gun goes off it most likely will not hurt anyone. When the dog goes off it will most likely hurt someone. Comfortable with that?

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Advocator 3 years, 7 months ago

Not only do you know little about dog breeds, but you appear to know much less about guns. I have a lot of guns and shoot several days a week. I would rather face a dog than a gun. There are about 30,000 deaths in the US due to guns each year. There are well under 100 deaths due to dog attacks in the US each year. BTW at least 25 different breeds were involved in the deaths by dog attacks over the last 20 plus years. You may be better off without any dogs or guns.

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rock1853 3 years, 7 months ago

Missing the point. The gun is pointed randomly around the yard, no one is touching it. The dog is all over teh yard and no one needs to touch it to set it off. Why does everyone have to keep telling other people just how little they know? Seems obvious enough not to have keep repeating it. You make my point for me about the breeds.

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